Friday, July 23, 2010

John Piper and Abusive Husbands

Last night I was browsing around YouTube (like usual), when I came across this clip from John Piper:



There's one thing Piper forgot to mention: RUN!

Yes, telling the church elders is good, but I think if a women is really concerned about the safety of her and her children, the #1 thing to do is to get away from her abusive husband, not wait until the church elders talk to him. Call me a heretic, but I feel that once a man puts his hands on a woman, he has violated his role as leader of the household, therefore he's no longer fit to be a husband.

Am I wrong?

9 comments:

  1. your right no man should do that?

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  2. I almost think there should be an elder intervention before it resorts to the physical violence. I think there is a lot of psychological abuse normally prior to physical abuse and neither is showing love to or nurturing your spouse.

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  3. Right on Travis.

    Forgive me, but John Piper lost any credibility when he claimed that the lightning bolt striking the ELCA's convention was God's judgment of their affirmation of LGBT ordination. I don't dig on voodoo theology.

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  4. i just threw up a little in my mouth.

    unbelievable.

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  5. I don't know Piper, so I can't really comment on his preaching style, but I don't think he was saying she should stay with her husband. He said the church should be her safe place, and she should go there so leaders could help her figure out what to do. One would hope the leaders would put her somewhere where she would feel protected from her husband.

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  6. Hopefully you're right, Scott. To me, it didn't sound like Piper was taking the issue seriously. I could be wrong, though.

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  7. Getting out of an abusive relationship is something I think needs to be emphasized more by Christian leaders. My father was abusive, our church pastors knew it (because my mother told them) and their response was "let's try to make this marriage work" instead of "let's find resources to help you get away from him." Once it goes into the realm of abuse, I think pastors should realize that a little church counseling just isn't going to cut it.

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  8. Honestly, Toranse, that is exactly why more churches should let women be leaders/elders! Men just don't get it...

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  9. I think there's a huge segment of Christians - both men and women - that just don't get it either. Maybe it's just the demographics of where I grew up (1950's-esque Christian community, and a Pentecostal church where the "power of prayer" can fix ANYTHING) but most were in huge support of "just pray and submit to your husband and God will work it out." Most couldn't understand the insidious way abuse works (or didn't want to acknowledge it) and when my mom finally had the courage to kick my father out of the house, most people thought she had done something wrong. I think there needs to be more awareness in general about abuse and how it functions, and the best way to help women get out of these situations.

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